Minutes:
The Corporate Director Place
began by stating Appendix A in the agenda would be going to an
extraordinary meeting of Full Council on 11 December 2018, and
comments made at the Task Force would be captured and summarised.
He added that both business and resident representatives had been
invited to speak on the item. The Assistant Director Lower Thames
Crossing (LTC) stated that the response fell into two parts, the
first being the Council’s response as a Local Authority, and
the second being the Council’s response as a landowner. She
listed the recommendations made in the report and stated there was
a minor error at point 5.3.1 which would be rectified through a
delegated decision. She elaborated that the Council’s
response fell into three categories: an ‘in-principle
opposition’; the inadequacy of consultation; and the
substantial changes which would have to be mitigated against. She
highlighted point 3.6 which summarised the consultation response
and 3.7 which summarised the landowner response. The Assistant
Director LTC then stated that the Council had few direct land
parcels which would fall under the compulsory land acquisition
category, with only one residential property and few agricultural
holdings; but had a substantial amount which fell under the Part 1
Compensation category. These were land parcels which could claim
compensation for some form of pollution, up to one year after the
road had been opened. She finally drew the Committee’s
attention to Preliminary Environmental Information Report (PEIR)
that considered the environmental effects of the LTC and informed
the final Environmental Assessment.
Councillor Spillman began by questioning the methodology of the
PEIR and shared his concerns that the data used for the report
might be flawed. The Assistant Director LTC replied that
information contained in the PEIR was not as detailed or up-to-date
as the Council would have liked, and this was compounded by the
fact the red line boundary had been increased by 68%. Councillor
Spillman also shared his concerns that specific numbers of toxins
were not included in the PEIR, and the effects of these toxins such
as increased rates of death or COPD were not discussed. The
Assistant Director LTC responded that Highways England (HE) were
undertaking a full Health Impact Assessment (HIA) which was
currently ongoing and this would show what health mitigation would
be needed. The HIA would then be scrutinised by an examination
board, and the Council could then ask specific questions. The
Strategic Lead Public Health added that she had attended a meeting
with HE at the end of November, which had included other Directors
of Public Health from Kent and Southend to discuss the ongoing HIA,
and provide local information. She felt that as this would be a
monthly meeting it would provide quality assurance that the HIA
would be detailed. Councillor Allen asked how far along work was on
the HIA and when the findings would be made public. The Assistant
Director LTC replied that the Council had produced a scoping
document for HE, and had taking them through the assurance
processes. She added that work had formally began at the meeting at
the end of November, but as it ran in parallel with the scheme,
findings would not be published until Development Consent Order
(DCO) submission which would probably be twelve months from now.
The Resident Representative asked when the Council and public would
be able to challenge the HIA. The Assistant Director LTC replied
that HE can be challenged during the examination phase, as
topic-specific hearings would be conducted, during which interested
parties could question and challenge the submission. The Assistant
Director LTC confirmed that when a draft HIA was produced in
June/July 2019, it would be brought before the Task Force.
The Vice-Chair continued the discussion around design mitigation
and the fact the LTC would come within 500 yards of communities
such as Chadwell St Mary, Orsett, and Stifford Clays. He stated
that he had spoken with HE who had said tunnels around those areas
would be too expensive. He added that as monies for the road would
now be coming from the public purse, design mitigation should be
reconsidered. He added that options for the route to be moved
further East, to places such as the A130, A12, A120 and M11, should
be considered as the current route would build-up traffic on the
M25 to an even greater extent. Councillor Allen then referenced the
report and asked what options testing had taken place regarding
traffic modelling and the proposed Rest and Service Area. The
Assistant Director LTC stated that HE had undertaken insufficient
traffic modelling, but the January meeting of the Task Force would
include a report on traffic assessment and modelling. The Corporate
Director Place added that HE had considered other locations for the
Rest and Service Area, but wanted options to include out-of-borough
sites too. Councillor Allen added that as the Tilbury Link Road had
been removed, and the A1089 was only currently two lanes, the
demand at the Asda roundabout would increase, particularly with the
expansion of the Amazon warehouse. The Assistant Director LTC
stated that the Council’s transport team was working with HE
on this issue, and the outcome of this would be presented to the
Task Force in January. She commented that the Council needed more
time to understand the traffic models, but wanted to submit the
consultation response within the deadline. The Chair clarified that
HE had not allowed extra time for the Council’s response and
the deadline remained 20 December 2018.
The Thames Crossing Action Group (TCAG) Representative asked what
other options had been available for the Rest and Service Area, as
South Ockendon had been ruled out because of the viaduct and
marshes; and Kent had been ruled out due to the closeness of the
services on the A2. The Corporate Director Place answered that
other options were detailed in the report, but that HE should be
looking beyond the three that had been shortlisted. The Thurrock
Business Representative stated that the Port of Tilbury
consultation response was currently being produced, but he felt
disappointed that HE had removed the Tilbury Link Road. The Chair
asked when the Port of Tilbury’s response would be made
public, to which the Business Representative replied that it would
be submitted by the deadline, and HE would make public through
their usual channels.
The Resident Representative drew the Committee’s attention to
6.2.1 of the report and asked if construction vehicles would be
subject to the same pollution restrictions as road vehicles,
particularly as construction would last 5-6 years. The
Transportation Development Manager answered that the Council would
seek legal advice, as often construction vehicles used red or pink
diesel, and fell under different legislation. He stated that HE had
made a commitment to using alternative and cleaner construction
vehicles, but the Council would look at ways to limit and mitigate
pollution. The Thurrock Business Board Representative clarified
that there were no pollution restrictions on construction vehicles,
but the Council could go back to HE to ask for the same
restrictions as were applied in London, which included older
vehicles meeting the new Euro 6 Standard. The Chair then commented
that as much construction traffic should travel via the waterway as
possible.
Councillor Spillman asked what the Council’s strongest
arguments were in opposing the LTC, and what chance the Council had
in having their views upheld. The Assistant Director LTC answered
that from a statutory perspective, HE only had to meet the
requirements of a National Policy Statement which she felt was a
low-bar for such a large scheme. She added that at this phase of
the scheme there was a presumption of development as long as HE
produced a policy compliant scheme. She felt the strongest points
of the consultation response were the need for cut and cover, a
more thorough options test for the Rest and Service Area and the
height of the viaduct. She added that the A13 junction was very
complicated as increased accessibility, would increase the need for
roads at height at the Orsett Cock roundabout which would also be
undesirable.
Councillor Allen discussed what would occur to the spoil from the
construction phase. The Assistant Director LTC replied that HE
would be able to take spoil without submitting any additional
planning applications, and this could be used for beneficial
projects such as turning old mineral deposits into open space. She
also reiterated that HE had made a commitment to reconnect public
rights of way.
Councillor Pothecary began a discussion on the Gammon Fields
traveller site, and asked where the new proposed site would be and
what it was currently used for. The Assistant Director LTC stated
that officers and HE attended a meeting with the travellers
accompanied by the HE mobile event unit. She felt that detailed
conversations had taken place between officers and travellers, and
officers now better understood the relationships between families
and the close knit communities. She stated the main themes of that
meeting had been the travellers opposition to the proposed site;
concern over the construction; and concern over the National Grid
electricity pylons that were directly above the proposed site. She
commented that HE had not undertaken a detailed study of the
proposed site, which had been identified as agricultural land. She
added that the proposed site was an irregular shape as it was
bounded by the contouring works for the A1089/LTC slip road.
Councillor Spillman asked if there were any precedents of
relocating a traveller’s site. The Assistant Director LTC
replied that travellers living around the Olympic Park had been
relocated, and last week she had visited Hackney travellers who had
been moved to discuss issues and problems.
Councillor Allen then commented that as the LTC was a toll road, HE
should get it right by design for example, by including cut and
cover. The TCAG Representative asked how close or realistic it was
to push the scheme outside the realm of ‘value for
money’. The Assistant Director LTC stated that the LTC had a
high value for money rating of 3.1, and would only be considered as
not value for money when that score fell below 1. She then stated
that even though the Chancellor had announced there would be no
more private contracts, the value for money rating would still be
closer to 2. She mentioned that as the contracts were now public,
the government would not be able to reclaim VAT from these, so
would need to find an extra £2billion for the scheme.
Councillor Spillman developed this by asking how much extra expense
the Council could cause the project. The Assistant Director LTC
replied that the only way the Council could push the scheme outside
its cost envelope would be to ask for tunnels for the length of the
route. She stated that the LTC fell into the Road Investment
Strategy 2 which was running from 2021 until 2026, and had a budget
of £28billion. She added that half of this budget would be
used for the LTC and Stonehenge project. She commented that HE
could be judicially reviewed, but Lancashire Council had tried a
similar tact on a similar project and this had been refused by
appeal in the first instance.
The Resident Representative then discussed point 1.3.2 of the
report and the nature of the DCO process, including the northern
portal. The Assistant Director LTC answered that the Council was
opposing both the plant room being placed on top of the tunnel, and
the access road to the left of the northern portal, as both of
these could be concealed in the tunnel itself. She stated that by
concealing these in the tunnel, HE could then create a walkway on
the river between the two forts. She added that spoil could also be
dispersed there to create usable land. Councillor Allen then raised
the point that the northern portal would cut through the old
Victorian landfill, and the Chair replied that a number of
historical artefacts could be recovered.
The Vice-Chair highlighted page 109 of the agenda and the impact
the LTC would have on local barn owls, as HE were not meeting the
industry standard of 1.5km away from their nests. The Assistant
Director LTC responded that HE plans to translocate species where
they are not meeting the industry standard and will encourage the
species to move.
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