Minutes:
The Highways England (HE) Head of Consents
began by providing an update to the ongoing community impact
consultation, and explained that following a request from the Task
Force, two new consultation events were being held in Thurrock. He
stated that HE had also received a request from Thurrock and 3
other local authorities (Kent CC, Gravesham BC and LB Havering) to
extend the consultation for 5 key reasons, and whilst HE understood
the difficulties of holding a consultation during COVID and across
the summer holiday, the consultation had already been extended from
6 weeks to 8 weeks and therefore would not be extended further. He
added that the minimum statutory period for consultation was 28
days and 8 weeks far exceeded this, and the consultation so far had
been extensive, including both in-person events as well as
webinars, a phone call back service and hard copy materials.
The HE Head of Consents then explained that HE had so far received
a significant response to the consultation, with 1,900 responses
being received so far, of which only 7 were paper copy responses.
He stated that this was a higher figure than both previous
consultations when looking at the same timeframe. He explained that
responses so far included areas such as the environment, air
quality, mitigation, construction, and the cost to use the route
once opened. He stated that 25 written questions had been received
from the Task Force and he would work through these questions in
order. The Senior Consultant Stantec clarified that the answers
should also be written and circulated to Members.
The HE Head of Consents began by outlining the first question:
“since HE keep referring to the economic benefits
of the proposed LTC, can they please provide an estimated figure on
the current economic benefits of the proposed LTC?” The
HE Head of Consents replied that this information would be set out
in the Development Consent Order (DCOv2), but was not included in
the current consultation, as it focussed mainly on the community
impact. He added that details of the economic benefit of the scheme
had been outlined in the 2018 statutory consultation, and this
document was currently being reworked and updated. He commented
that the ward summaries in this consultation outlined on a ward
level new job opportunities due to shortened commute times and
reduced congestion, which would provide economic benefit.
Councillor Kent questioned if these would be new jobs, or existing
jobs that would now become accessible for Thurrock residents. The
HE Head of Consents replied that these were existing jobs that
would become accessible. He added that there would be approximately
20,000 new jobs associated with the scheme, which would be good for
local people and the local economy. He stated that reduced traffic
on the westbound A13, southbound M25 and at the Dartford Crossing
would improve journey times and therefore improve the local
economy.
Councillor Muldowney questioned how many of the 20,000 jobs related
to the scheme would be based in Thurrock. The HE Head of Consents
replied that a regional breakdown was not available, but would
liaise with the team to find out if a written response could be
provided. He stated that many of the major work sites and compounds
would be based in Thurrock, which would increase the workforce
within the area, and that jobs along the length of the route would
be available to Thurrock residents too. He added that the highways
contract had been granted for north of the river, and tunnel
construction labour would be split between north and south. The
Senior Consultant Stantec stated that targets for local employment
and apprenticeships needed to be agreed and confirmed in the DCOv2,
and needed to be committed to in control documents. He stated that
as part of the Tideway project 25% of the workforce had to be from
the local authorities affected, and although this had been hard to
achieve, a 20% local employment target would be achievable. The HE
Head of Consents replied that the HE team were currently in
discussion with Thurrock officers regarding the Skills and
Employment strategy and the role of targets. He stated that no
commitment had been made yet, but HE were already working with
local employers through workshops and for site investigations. He
explained that if targets were included in the DCOv2 and then not
met, this would be a criminal offence, and HE could not guarantee
the engagement of the local workforce.
Councillor Muldowney expressed her concern over the hesitancy to
commit to employment targets, and felt that even a 15% local
employment target would be beneficial to local residents. The
Senior Consultant Stantec added that employment targets are not
necessary to be achieved, but would show a commitment by HE to try
and employ local people and use local procurement. The HE Head of
Consents replied that the conversation was currently ongoing
between HE and Thurrock officers. Councillor Chukwu stated that
there was currently a shortage of UK construction workers, and
asked if HE would be providing training to increase construction
workers in the area. The HE Head of Consents explained that not all
20,000 jobs on the scheme would be in construction, as the project
required a number of different skillsets. He stated that the team
understood there would be numerous different developments in the
area, including the Thames Freeport and London Resort, and HE would
work with organisations to provide the necessary support.
The HE Head of Consents moved onto question two: “since HE have stated there won't be ventilation chimneys
for the tunnel, can they please explain in detail how the tunnel
would be ventilated? This is obviously a major concern especially
for residents closest to the portals, both visually and in regard
to air pollution.” He responded that there would be fan
ventilation along the length of the tunnel, but these would only be
switched on if traffic became stationary, slowed or there was an
incident. He explained that in normal circumstances vehicle
movement would create airflow and disperse emissions out of the
tunnel portals. He stated that the nearest home to the tunnel
portal was along Station Road and was approximately 800m away. He
stated that the air quality impact would only be felt approximately
50m from the tunnel portal, and all emissions would be dispersed at
around 200m from the tunnel portal.
Councillor Muldowney questioned why different ventilation systems
would be used in the LTC compared to the Dartford Crossing. The HE
Technical Lead responded that the LTC would be a more modern tunnel
and would be much bigger than the Dartford Crossing. He stated that
the team were currently working to assess airflows, but as the
traffic travelled in the same direction, this should ensure
necessary ventilation naturally. He explained that the ventilation
fans would only be used if stationary traffic occurred. The Senior
Consultant Stantec queried if there was a minimum length for a
tunnel before ventilation had to be introduced. His understanding
was that the LTC would be too short to introduce ventilation
columns. The HE Technical Lead replied that the tunnel length as
well as the gradient determined what type of ventilation was
needed, but ventilation columns were not needed for the LTC.
Councillor Piccolo questioned if the fans would also be used when
traffic was slowly crawling. He asked if monitors would be in place
along the tunnel to ensure fans came on when necessary, even if
traffic was not stationary. The HE Technical Lead stated that he
would come back with a written response. The Chair questioned air
quality surrounding Coalhouse Fort, which would be close to the
north portal tunnel entrance. The HE Head of Consents stated that
any air quality impacts would have been dispersed before reaching
Coalhouse Fort, and was far enough away from the area of concern,
which was 50m from the tunnel entrance. He explained that within
200m away from the portal, air quality returned to its normal
levels. The Chair questioned if wind could impact on these areas of
concern. The HE Technical Lead responded that wind would help to
disperse particulates.
Councillor Muldowney questioned the plans to build a park (Tilbury
Fields) by the tunnel portal, and asked if this would be within the
50m area of air quality concern. The HE Head of Consents commented
that the 50m area of concern was a worst case scenario, and usually
was only a concern if people had increased exposure, for example,
lived within this area. He stated that if people were passing
through there would be no ill effects on health. He added that the
road would be in cutting in this area, and the park would be
further south rather than adjacent to the tunnel portal.
The Chair questioned how air quality and noise would be monitored
during construction and operation. The HE Head of Consents stated
that air quality and noise would be monitored during construction
to provide a baseline level of data, but would not be monitored
during operation. The Chair questioned how air quality and noise
would be compared pre-LTC and after route opening. The HE Head of
Consents replied that HE would monitor traffic levels rather than
specifically noise or air quality. The Chair requested that air
quality and noise monitoring after route opening be included as
part of the scheme. Councillor Piccolo echoed the Chair’s
comments and felt that air quality and noise needed to be monitored
after route opening to show if HE’s predictions were correct
or not. He felt that monitoring would be the only way Thurrock
would know if there was a problem with local air quality levels.
The HE Head of Consents mentioned that there were a number of
complexities involved in air quality and noise monitoring, but
would take this back to the team for their consideration.
The HE Head of Consents moved onto question three: “have HE looked into The Wilderness in South Ockendon as
an ancient woodland as we previously requested, if so what update
is there?” The HE Head of
Consents stated that there was specific criteria for a woodland to
be designated as ancient, as the woodland had to be in continuous
existence since 1600. He stated that the team had studied
historical maps of The Wilderness and records of its existence only
went back as far as 1840. He mentioned that this area was still of
importance to Thurrock residents, and the route alignment had been
changed since statutory consultation to reduce the impact on the
area by introducing a new retaining wall. He stated that a
watercourse would also divert through the southern end of The
Wilderness and new woodland would be planted to replace those trees
lost by the watercourse. The Chair questioned if those replacement
trees would be in the immediate vicinity. The HE Technical Lead
replied that new planting would occur around the watercourse near
to The Wilderness as well as to the south side of the LTC. The
Chair questioned if the watercourse would be diverted near to the
landfill. The HE Technical Lead explained that the watercourse
would be split by the LTC, then diverted parallel to the route, and
would reconnect on the eastern edge towards the landfill. The HE
Head of Consents added that the watercourse would be designed in
consultation with the Environment Agency, as there was a need to
protect the landfill site, and ensure both the watercourse and
landfill did not affect the other. The Chair asked if HE would
undertake investigations into the landfill. The HE Head of Consents
replied that the team had talked to the owner of the landfill and
would investigate to ensure the proximity of the works did not
bridge the contamination edge of the landfill site.
The HE Head of Consents moved onto question four: “why did HE not update the map books etc. to properly show
the extra slip road lane connecting the LTC to the A13/Orsett Cock
for the consultation?” The HE Head of Consents stated
that the need for an extra slip road had been identified later on
in the process and the map books had already been produced. He
stated that a link on the website had been included and text had
been updated in some documents, as well as being an area for
discussion at in-person consultation events.
Councillor Muldowney stated that she felt concerned about
engagement from residents with the consultation. She added that
there were lots of detailed documents which contained complex
information, and this made it hard for residents to understand. She
felt that more information should be provided that was not as
specialist and easier for residents to understand, including
information on how the scheme would directly affect them. She added
that Thurrock had also not received an updated air quality or noise
assessment, and would not receive these until after the
consultation had closed. The HE Head of Consents replied that air
quality and noise information had been included in the
consultation, but these were only preliminary works as the full
assessment would not be agreed until DCO submission. He stated that
the team would continue to work on the full assessment alongside
the development of the project, but the information in the
consultation was representative of the impacts of the scheme.
Councillor Muldowney asked how confident HE were that residents
living within 250m of the route would not have any adverse health
impacts due to air quality, both during construction and operation.
The HE Head of Consents replied that he could not comment on
individual cases, and some adverse effects would be felt by
residents. He stated that these were listed in the consultation
documents, but it was a complex field and HE were trying to help
local residents understand the impacts.
The Senior Consultant Stantec queried the qualified text in section
1.6 of the ward summaries, and queried if further work was being
undertaken to update this information. He felt that HE could not be
confident in this information if it had not been updated and was
still subject to change. The HE Head of Consents stated that HE
were confident this information was representative. Councillor
Muldowney questioned if a fund would be set up to assist residents
who would be severely impacted by the scheme, for example, those
with pre-existing conditions or vulnerabilities. The HE Head of
Consents stated that compensation requirements were listed in the
consultation material, but a specific fund was not currently being
discussed.
The Senior Consultant Stantec added that Thurrock officers were
currently reviewing the new HE non-statutory compensation document,
but felt that it did not go much beyond what was statutorily
required. He added that it was a new document and new policy that
HE had released for the LTC, but felt that it did not go far
enough. He stated that he would circulate it to those Members that
wished to see it.
The HE Head of Consents outlined question five: “can HE provide full details of how long they predict road
closures to be for each road, as the info in the consultation
materials seems to contradict itself? For example, page 321 in the
Ward Impact Summary - North of the River Pt1 states the southern
end of Baker Street being closed for 16 months, yet on page 354 in
the same document it states the south end of Baker Street would be
closed for 5 years. Would it be 16
months or 5 years?” He stated that the road section of
Baker Street would be closed for 16 months, and the footpath
alongside Baker Street would be closed for 5 years. He stated that
the footpath ran through a major construction area for the A13
junction and needed to be safe for residents to use, and therefore
needed to be closed for the duration of construction. He understood
that this was a significant Public Right of Way (PRoW) closure and
the team would look into how this could be diverted along the A1013
and High Road. He added that the team were also considering how it
could be maintained once open and this information was included in
the consultation documents.
Councillor Muldowney questioned the closure of Brentwood Road, as
the ward impact summary stated it would be closed for 12-14 months
to move a gas main and other utilities. She asked if the road would
be fully closed for 12-14 months or only a percentage of this time.
She also sought reassurance that residents along Brentwood Road
would still be able to access their homes, and what mitigation
would be put in place if they could not. The HE Head of Consents
stated that he would reply in writing to the query. He commented
that Brentwood Road would be closed due to specific utilities
diversions, but residents would still have access to their
homes.
The Senior Consultant Stantec stated that he had regularly raised
the number of PRoW closures and the length of time they would be
closed for without HE providing any suitable mitigation. He asked
if HE could look at providing alternative routes and diversions.
The HE Head of Consents replied that some areas would be closed for
long periods of time, and the team were looking at diversions, but
these might prove difficult due to construction areas.
Councillor Muldowney stated that areas such as Chadwell St Mary and
Tilbury already had long wait times for emergency services,
particularly ambulances that had to travel from Basildon Hospital.
She asked if wait times for emergency services would worsen due to
road closures, and what mitigation would be put in place to prevent
this. The HE Head of Consents explained that this was set out in
the outline Traffic Management Plan, which would be submitted prior
to construction, and would be agreed in consultation with Thurrock
Council and the emergency services. He stated that a detailed level
of information could only be brought forward prior to construction.
Councillor Muldowney also questioned the 3m high barriers along
Godman Road, and queried if this would protect residents in the
Chadwell St Mary high rise flats from emissions. The HE Head of
Consents stated that he would reply in writing due to the specific
nature of the request.
The HE Head of Consents moved onto question six: “can HE explain how the AM peak traffic only has a 10-20%
increase, yet PM peak traffic has a 20-40% increase, why? How can
the peak hour traffic in the evening be twice as much as in the
morning?” The HE Head of Consents stated that traffic
movement varied throughout the day, as not everyone undertook a
regular commute. He explained that afternoon peak traffic increased
due to HGV movements and people returning from shopping or visiting
family, etc. Councillor Muldowney felt that a traffic increase
along local roads such as A1089 and Brentwood Road would have a
negative effect on the residents of Chadwell St Mary, including in
terms of air quality. The HE Head of Consents explained that any
traffic changes had been accounted for in the traffic model, which
had then been used to inform the air quality assessment. He stated
that air quality impacts would be relatively localised, and there
would be no expansive air quality concerns. He stated that once the
route was opened, air quality would improve in areas such as
Dartford, as well as for residents living alongside the M25 and
A13. He stated that the ward summaries highlighted the impact of
the route for residents in Chadwell St Mary, as well as in other
areas of Thurrock. He stated that there would be positive and
negative impacts of the LTC and the planning process was designed
to consider all aspects.
The HE Head of Consents outlined question seven: “in relation to the ‘volume to capacity’ data,
where can we find details of the capacity of the roads? Also, what
is the design capacity of the proposed LTC?” He stated
that HE did not normally report on route capacity, which was in
line with design industry standards, as every element of the scheme
would have a different capacity. He stated that the tunnel would
have a passenger car unit (PCU) per hour capacity of 6,360. He
explained that one PCU equated to one car, and one HGV equated to
2.5 PCUs. He stated that every slip road would have a different
capacity, which could also be affected by gradients.
The HE Head of Consents outlined question eight: “can HE explain why they are now only predicting a 21%,
instead of 22%, decrease in traffic at the Dartford Crossing if LTC
goes ahead, and would this figure drop again if things like London
Resort was taken into account for traffic modelling? Can HE remind
us why London Resort has not been included in the current traffic
modelling?” He explained that Figure 4.1 in the
Operations Update provided updated traffic modelling information,
which included new developments, such as the new Amazon depot in
Dartford, and therefore changed the capacity at the Dartford
Crossing. He stated that the change in opening year also had an
effect on traffic figures. He then explained that the London Resort
had not been included in the model as the scheme was highly complex
and the level of detail required not yet been released. He
commented that this information would be included at DCOv2
submission and a sensitivity analysis in terms of traffic in
relation to the London Resort would also be undertaken.
The HE Head of Consents stated that question nine was a follow on
question: “why do HE predict it will drop further
to just 14% by 2044?” He responded that the forecast at
Dartford reduced over time until 14% by 2044, due to increased
population and new developments. He added that once the LTC was
opened people would reroute their journeys and residents who live
in Thurrock would increase the number of journeys they made south
of the river. Councillor Muldowney queried if the new route would
be a new mechanism to fill up roads, as it increased the number of
journeys that could be made. She felt that due to climate change,
new roads should not be built. She also questioned how the LTC
would help the government meet its climate change ambitions, and
how carbon release would be mitigated. The HE Head of Consents
replied that the team had carefully considered if the LTC would
induce new traffic, for example, through people making new trips,
and the team had found that only a small percentage of journeys
would be new. He stated that some people would choose new routes,
which would increase the length of their journeys, and this also
accounted for a small percentage of overall journeys made. He
explained that the LTC would enable people to make different
journeys rather than new ones. He added that the Department of
Transport had recently published their Decarbonisation Plan, which
identified road structure as critical to the government’s
climate ambition. He stated that if the LTC was not built, Dartford
would remain an issue in terms of congestion and emissions. He
stated that the team were currently looking at the carbon footprint
of the LTC during construction and operation, and how these impacts
could be lessened, for example, using renewable power sources. The
HE Head of Consents added that there was currently no scheme in
place for carbon offsetting, but HE’s focus was to try and
ensure all cars and HGVs produced no emissions, in line with the
government’s target of banning fossil fuel cars by 2030 and
HGVs by 2040.
Councillor Kent sought clarification that there would be very few
new journeys after the LTC opening, and the majority would be
different journeys. He felt that travel patterns in Thurrock would
change as the majority of people currently lived in Thurrock and
worked in London, and this would change as job opportunities opened
up in Kent. He felt that this would have an impact on climate
change and carbon emissions. He added that currently residents
could not use public transport to get into Kent, and this would not
change once the route was opened. The HE Head of Consents stated
that he would go back to the technical team for clarification. He
stated that the team were also considering the role of public
transport along the LTC.
The Senior Consultant Stantec added that Thurrock Council had made
proposals about public transport to HE. He stated that under
current plans buses could use the tunnel, but would need to take a
circuitous route to areas where people could catch the bus to/from.
He explained that if HE altered their plans for emergency access,
this could increase the viability of a bus route between Thurrock
and Kent. He stated that currently no bus operators would operate
using the new LTC and people would be dissuaded from using public
transport. The HE Head of Consents replied that public transport
operators could use the route, and HE would also be developing the
Tilbury Link Road to improve connectivity. He stated that due to a
reduction of congestion at Dartford, buses would also see increased
journey times which would improve connectivity.
Councillor Muldowney stated that the route would produce 3.2million
tonnes of carbon during operation, and 2.2million tonnes of carbon
during construction. She felt that bus companies should be
encouraged to utilise the LTC and a route made viable. The HE Head
of Consents replied that the team had already undertaken some
preliminary work into bus travel across the route, but would
undertake further study. The Senior Consultant Stantec added that
Thurrock had also undertaken some preliminary market demand work,
and had found that it could be possible and profitable for bus
companies dependent on demand and routing.
The Chair stated that electric vehicles still produced brake dust
and PM2.5. He added that at route opening the majority of HGVs
would also still be using fossil fuels. He queried if HE planned to
use electric LGVs during construction. The HE Head of Consents
responded that HE would be using electric shuttle buses to get
workers to their sites, and were looking into the possibility of
using hydrogen technology too. He stated that there were lots of
options, but not all vehicles would be zero emissions, as some
would be too specialist. He stated that he would reply in writing
regarding the use of electric LGVs.
The HE Head of Consents then outlined question ten: “how can HE state on page 126 of the Operations Update
that they predict traffic on the Dartford Crossing in 2029 to be
168,200 vehicles daily and 183,100 vehicles daily in 2044 (without
the LTC), when in reality the Dartford Crossing is currently
running between 155k and 180k vehicles per day now. Where do these
predicted figures come from as they don't seem very realistic,
especially when the predicted traffic growth between 2016 and 2026
has previously been stated to be between a 17-23%
increase?” The HE Head of Consents replied that the
transport model used an average weekly figure from a week in March.
He stated that in heavily congested areas in Dartford, congestion
would increase by 9% once the LTC had opened, and without the LTC
this increase would be unconstrained.
The HE Head of Consents then answered questions eleven, twelve and
thirteen: “can we have further clarification on
the 24/7 working hours?” “Why are they being detailed
as 'new' in the consultation if it is something that would already
have been happening for reasons of safety etc., and was outlined in
the Supplementary Consultation?” “What protections will
be in place to stop HE working 24/7 just to speed things up when
and where it suits them?” He stated that there would be
24/7 working at the tunnel launch site near East Tilbury as this
would reduce construction risk, but this would be controlled. He
added that it was standard practice to use 24/7 working in the
tunnel as the boring machine needed to work continuously. He stated
that there were also additional 24/7 working areas that had been
identified and highlighted in the consultation. He stated that
these were labelled as ‘new’ but this was because they
had not been set out individually in a consultation before. He
stated that 24/7 working would improve safety on the local road
network and reduce the impact of construction on roads such as the
A2 and A13. He explained that the team would work to ensure least
disruption to residents, for example, by utilising overnight
closures and these were set out in the consultation. He added that
24/7 working practices would also be included in the Code of
Construction Practice (CoCP), and further, would need to be agreed
by Thurrock Council as part of a section 61 consent.
The Senior Consultant Stantec stated that the areas of 24/7 working
in roads were listed in the CoCP Section 6.4 as 35 locations
overall, with 30 of these being in Thurrock; and, there were a
further 35 areas for utility works of which 15 were in Thurrock. He
stated that these areas had not been mapped and the reasoning for
24/7 working was not included in any of the consultation documents.
The HE Head of Consents explained that the team could sit with
Thurrock officers to outline the different locations to ensure full
understanding of the reasoning behind 24/7 working. He stated that
some sites were 24/7 due to directional drilling and the nature of
the works. He commented that none of the 24/7 working sites were
driven by the programme completion date.
The Chair sought clarification that 24/7 working would only be
utilised in the locations listed, and other sites would follow
normal working hours. The HE Head of Consents stated that he would
provide a written response. The Chair also sought clarification
regarding noise and vibration, and asked if HE could help residents
understand the levels of noise and vibration, and how it would
affect them. The HE Head of Consents stated that there was a
graphic included in the ward summaries that provided an indication
of noise level and highlighted the difference between a 5 decibel
noise increase. Councillor Muldowney felt there was a big
difference between a 5 decibel noise increase during the day
compared to overnight. She queried how long 24/7 working would need
to be undertaken near Brentwood Road and Godman Road. The HE Head
of Consents replied that he would provide a written response.
Councillor Byrne arrived 19.47
Councillor Chukwu stated that he lived close to the route
and queried how noise and vibration might affect him. The HE Head
of Consents stated that he could not comment on specific locations
but urged Members to attend consultation events or call the contact
line, who would be able to answer questions regarding specific
locations. He stated that all disruptions would be carefully
managed, particularly the delivery of the tunnel and portals. The
Senior Consultant Stantec stated that section 7 of the ward
summaries described the impact of noise and vibration, but did not
include a list of works being undertaken in that ward, particularly
24/7 working areas. He asked where this information could be found.
The HE Head of Consents replied that the ward summaries set out
general locations, and more detailed information would be included
in the CoCP.
The Chair questioned what would happen if HE breached their working
hour’s policies. The HE Head of Consents explained that the
local authority could issue a stop work directive if working hours
that were outlined in the DCOv2 and Control of Pollution Act 1974
(COPA) were breached. He stated that he would reply with a more
detailed answer in writing.
The HE Technical Lead outlined question fourteen: “HE gave us a presentation in January this year. On page
12 there are images of cross sections of the proposed bridges. Can
HE please give us clarity and confirmation on what we can expect
from these bridges, as we have since learnt during this
consultation that those images are evidently not what we should
expect in reality if LTC goes ahead? For instance the 'Green'
bridge at North Road appears to show 2 lanes of traffic with a
cycle lane running alongside, and then what looks like footpath to
each side of the road/cycle path. Yet we are now being told that
there would just be 2 lanes of traffic and a split footpath/cycle
lane? If there is just one footpath and as we understand it that is
to the east side of the road, can HE please clarify how pedestrians
would cross safely to the north side of the bridge to use the
proposed footpath that would run westwards on the west side of
North Road up towards the M25/Thames Chase direction, as crossing
the very busy North Road not long after a raised green bridge
doesn't sound safe or sensible. We would obviously appreciate
clarity on all proposed bridges as to whether any of the cross
section images are actually accurate representations of what to
expect please.” The HE Technical Lead responded that the
pictures included in the presentation to the Task Force are a
cross-section and provided illustrative figures, and are the same
as outlined in the January 2021 presentation. He explained that the
green bridge at North Road would not be for public access, but
there would be a public pedestrian cycleway alongside North Road
that would connect to a new footpath and would be extended from
east to west. He stated that the team were currently working with
Thurrock officers to consider the whole PRoW strategy and how
footpaths would be used in future, including any future controlled
crossings.
The Senior Consultant Stantec added that the widths of all LTC
crossings might be adequate, but that Thurrock officers were
currently discussing how this width could be utilised. He stated
that the majority are currently proposed as pedestrian/cyclist
shared spaces, but Thurrock were requiring separate pedestrian and
cyclist areas in accordance with DfT guidance LTN 1/20. He
mentioned that Thurrock were currently developing their active
travel strategy and were working with HE to ensure the
strategy’s success and did not want such crossings design to
constrain future increased usage.
The HE Technical Lead then outlined question fifteen: “on the topic of PRoW, could HE also please clarify how
they can call the southern end of Rectory Rd in Orsett a new PRoW
in consultation materials? Because if
it is new I am not sure what I walk and cycle along there now and
have been doing for years?! It is also
a bit confusing as where they are showing the cycle route on the
old A13 (A1013/Stanford Rd) as they show it on the north side of
the road, when in reality it is to the south side. Could HE also
clarify for us why the PRoW to the south side of the A1013/Stanford
road is being shown as upgraded and what real benefit the suggested
upgrade would actually bring us in reality, other than what I seem
to remember as being a slightly wider bit of concrete/tarmac along
what is already a reasonable width path, and appears would destroy
more hedgerow and agricultural land. This is just an example and we
are and will be reviewing other PRoWs in detail too, as it appears
HE are simply trying to tick boxes and try and make their 'efforts'
in regard to PRoW look better than they actually would be in
reality if LTC goes ahead.” The HE Technical Lead stated
that the PRoW would be upgraded to bridleway standard, and would
include provision for use by cyclists. He stated that the team had
investigated a link between the A127 and A13, but found that there
was more east to west demand than north to south. He added that a
north to south route would also not be safe as cyclists could not
use the tunnel. He added that there had been proposals to use the
service area beneath the tunnel for cyclists, but this would not be
safe as cyclists could not be evacuated from this area if there was
an emergency. He explained that the ferry provided a safer crossing
for cyclists from a more central location.
The Chair questioned how cyclists currently got across the river,
and asked if they could use the Dartford Crossing. The HE Technical
Lead stated that there was a shuttle service to escort cyclists
across the Dartford Crossing. The HE Head of Consents added that
cyclists could arrive at a pick up point, phone the shuttle
service, and a van would arrive to transport you and your bike
through the tunnel. He explained that it would take approximately
15 minutes for the van to arrive, although this could be longer
during peak hours and if there was congestion. He added that
cyclists could also use the ferry as transport across the river.
The Chair asked if a shuttle for cyclists could be introduced to
the LTC. The HE Head of Consents responded that they were not
currently considering a shuttle service as the ferry provided the
best route across the river.
Councillor Muldowney stated that some PRoW in Chadwell St Mary
would be closed for four years and asked if some of these would be
upgraded to bridleways. She asked if these PRoW would use target
hardening to ensure anti-social behaviour with quadbikes and
motorbikes did not occur. The HE Technical Lead replied that the
detail surrounding prevention of anti-social behaviour would be
considered at the detailed design stage. The HE Head of Consents
added that this detail was required to be included in the Landscape
Plan (the OLEMP), and target hardening would be considered as part
of this. The HE Head of Consents added that at the previous Task
Force Councillor Muldowney had questioned the cost saving benefit
of removal of the Rest and Service Area (RaSA). He stated that the
team had considered this question and had found that there had been
no measurable cost saving from its removal as the land would still
be utilised as a construction compound. He explained that it had
been removed due to public feedback, feedback from Thurrock
Council, and the practicalities of building on green belt, rather
than as a cost-saving exercise. The Senior Consultant Stantec added
that HE had also removed the route and junction at the same time as
the RaSA, and felt this would have had a cost saving impact and the
HE Head of Consents agreed to consider this further and reply in
writing.
The HE Technical Lead then moved onto question sixteen: “please explain what is happening at the
Orsett Cock underpass? Will there be two or three lanes? Will this
create a bottle-neck?” The HE
Technical Lead explained that three lanes would continue under the
Orsett Cock roundabout. He explained that the section east of the
A13 before the A1089 slip road would become two lanes as the LTC
would utilise one as a slip road on both the east and westbound
carriageways. He stated that this had been designed using the
traffic model and would ensure smooth traffic flow.
The Senior Consultant Stantec queried how long the two lane section
would be, and the HE Technical Lead replied that it would be
approximately 600 yards long. Councillor Byrne questioned if the
reduction from three lanes to two would create a bottleneck. The HE
Technical Lead explained that due to the through traffic there
needed to be a drop to two lanes. He stated that this was common
practice and industry standard, and would allow traffic to pick up
when joining the LTC. Councillor Piccolo questioned if the LTC slip
road would be utilising the new lane currently being built on the
A13 by Thurrock Council. The HE Technical Lead explained that HE
would not be using the new lane between Orsett Cock and the
Manorway, and this would remain three lanes. He added that the LTC
would relieve pressure on the A13 as it would take traffic off
before Dartford. The HE Head of Consents stated that this
information was included on page 148 of the Operations Update, and
page 149 highlighted the difference in traffic flow once the LTC
had been opened. The Senior Consultant Stantec stated that the
information only showed traffic data up until 2029, and queried
what would happen in future, up until 2044. The HE Head of Consents
stated that he would provide a written response.
The Chair and Task Force agreed to extend standing
orders.
The HE Head of Consents then outlined question seventeen:
“There have been varying numbers of workers
mentioned in connection with the project can you clarify: A)
Numbers: as they will be spread along the route; B) Numbers: how
they will be spread through the construction phase; C) And how the
project will accommodate them over the lifespan of the construction
period?” The HE Technical Lead stated that there would be
approximately 22,000 jobs over the course of project delivery, but
these were not broken down into area or phase. He stated that he
would consult with the team to see if it was possible to provide
numbers of workers by area, which would be included in the written
response. He stated that there were currently no detailed forecasts
about the numbers of workers at any one time on site, and these
would be up to the contractor to work out.
The Senior Consultant Stantec stated that there approximately 18/19
compounds, and asked if HE had done an estimate on the number of
workers in each compound. He stated that there would be
approximately 3-4,000 construction workers overall, and the figure
of 22,000 employees would be from across the country in all areas.
The HE Head of Consents replied that he would work with the team
and provide a written response to the number of workers in each
compound.
The HE Head of Consents then outlined that some workers would be on
site and others would be from across the region. He stated that HE
were working with small and medium enterprises (SMEs) and urging
businesses to sign up to the supply chain directory, to receive
information directly about different contracts. He added that HE
were also offering training to local businesses to ensure they had
the skillset to work on projects and understand the procurement
rules. He then answered part C of the question and stated that HE
were currently developing a strategy to accommodate workers, but
their first priority was using workers from the local area. He
stated that for those who came into the borough for work, the team
were assessing housing capacity in Thurrock, and would build 400
temporary accommodation units near the north portal. He added that
some 80 workers would also be working under ground and would
therefore need specialist pressurised accommodation.
The HE Head of Consents then answered question eighteen:
“how will residents along the proposed route know
what design standards the contractors will have to meet to control
noise, light and emissions impact, both during construction and
afterwards? Additionally how will residents be made aware of actual
performance on these measures vs the standards?” He
stated that controls on contractors would be set out in the DCOv2,
and control documents such as the CoCP would set out in detail the
requirements on contractors. He stated that these control documents
would be signed off by Thurrock Council as well as the Secretary of
State. He added that HE would monitor contractor’s
compliance, and publicise and maintain an electronic register of
everything contractors were required to do. He stated that HE would
also be undertaking regular site inspections and audits, and could
be accompanied by Thurrock Council, the Environment Agency, and
Natural England on request. The HE Head of Consents explained that
HE would be undertaking a community engagement programme and would
work with residents to ensure contractors were complying with
regulations. He stated that residents would also be informed of
works through a variety of communication methods including through
the Local Authority, forums, letters and social media. He
summarised and stated that all contractors would need to meet the
considerate contractor’s regulations.
Councillor Muldowney stated that 10% of the adult population did
not have access to the internet, and queried how HE were engaging
with hard to reach groups, including those who were not online or
had English as a second language. The HE Head of Consents replied
that HE had followed procedures in terms of advertising in
newspapers, letter drops across the region, a phone line, and in
person consultation events for those not online. He added that if a
resident needed translation services they should contact HE and
these requests would be considered.
The HE Head of Consents outlined question nineteen: “we have questioned at various meetings with Highways
England our concern on both the choice of reflective sound barriers
(fences) over modern absorbing material and the choice of clean
root shrubs and trees over bigger, fast growing varieties. If your
chosen materials do not perform satisfactorily what follow up will
residents be able to have to correct the situation?” The
HE Head of Consents explained that HE would be introducing suitable
noise mitigation such as noise reducing road surfaces, noise
barriers, and vibration mitigation measures. He stated that the
type and height of these mitigation measures would be determined
through the use of models and would be installed in line with
industry standards. He added that HE would also use tree planting
for screening, and would use specific trees that would be native to
the area, and easy to establish, even if weather patterns varied
due to climate change. He stated that these measures would need to
be DCO compliant, and if not then residents could contact the local
authority or HE directly.
The Chair questioned how the Council would find out if HE were
being compliant in terms of noise, as there would be no monitoring.
The HE Head of Consents replied that although there would be no
specific noise monitoring, HE would continue to monitor traffic
after route opening. The Senior Consultant questioned how HE would
know if these predictions on noise were right or wrong after the
route had been opened. The HE Head of Consents explained that there
were lots of uncertainties regarding traffic post route opening,
for example, traffic levels, accidents and carbon levels, and these
would be monitored one year and five years after route opening,
with an overview report every two years.
The HE Head of Consents moved on to question twenty: “the operational hours of the contractors shared during
the consultation, were both very vague and not explicit over the
length of the route. This is not satisfactory, please share more
detail on the operational hours for the various segments of the
route particularly those areas adjacent to residential
blocks.” The HE Head of Consents stated that working
hours had been set out in the consultation documents, but would be
from 7am-7pm on weekdays, and 7am-4pm on Saturdays. He added that
there would be an hour either side of these times for setting up
and closing down the site. He stated that in some instances, such
as during earthwork season, these hours may be extended until 10pm,
but these would be defined by contractors and agreed in a section
61 notice.
The HE Head of Consents then outlined question twenty one:
“during the consultation figures were given for
HGV movements for various parts of the construction, it numbered
them as round trips which made the actual numbers quoted seem like
half the number. Residents will experience two movements of a HGV
going through their area per trip. Please clarify the level of
movements and what impact, if any, will the suggested use of
Tilbury 2 have on reducing HGV movements.” The HE Head of
Consents explained that HGV numbers referred to the number of HGVs,
which had to make two trips. He added that the majority of
excavated material from the tunnel would be used for landscaping,
and construction materials brought onto the site could use the
ports, and these had already been accounted for in the HGV movement
figures. He mentioned that the ports could only be used for certain
construction aspects, as if materials were brought by port that
needed to be used south of the river or at the M25, this would
increase the number of HGVs on the local road network and increase
congestion.
The Chair questioned how much material would be brought into the
ports. The HE Head of Consents replied that the majority of
excavated material would be reused on site for landscaping banks,
which would reduce the need for the ports or HGVs. He added that HE
would also use haul roads along the route inside the construction
area, which would reduce HGVs on the local road network and improve
safety. He stated that HE would also be self-imposing HGV bans on
certain local roads. The Senior Consultant Stantec added that the
Outline Materials Handling Plan would include this information, and
Thurrock Council were seeking commitments to river transport of
materials. The HE Head of Consents commented that HE were also
looking at other river locations in the wider area.
Councillor Muldowney asked if HE would be removing the HGV
restriction on Brentwood Road to be able to access the utilities
logistics hub. The HE Head of Consents replied that the scheme was
a major project and would increase traffic and HGV movements during
construction. He explained that HE needed to be safe during the
construction phase, and would try and mitigate the impact of HGVs,
but some areas would be more disrupted than others. He stated that
these disrupted areas had not been ranked, but would mainly be near
the A13 junction.
The HE Head of Consents then moved onto question twenty two:
“the driver for this project from the outset has
been the need to relieve the congestion at not only the Dartford
Crossing but also the surrounding link roads on both sides of the
river. How do you plan to set up the communication of the worsening
traffic volume during construction and hopefully alleviated traffic
volume on completion so the residents can see that the pain they
have to go through during construction has been worthwhile and that
HE have been right in the route they have chosen?”
The HE Head of Consents stated that the route would be monitored
during construction and for some time afterwards. He stated that HE
would be publishing an engagement strategy, which would be agreed
by contractors in liaison with stakeholders, such as Thurrock
Council. He added that reports would be undertaken for the first
year after route opening, the fifth year after route opening, and
at regular two year intervals to show how HE were meeting their
targets.
The HE Head of Consents answered question twenty three: “what role and involvement will HE have in
LTC once all the contracts have been awarded?”
He explained that HE would have ultimate
responsibility for the works and contractors, and would have
oversight of communications and monitoring. He stated that the HE
delivery team would regularly be on site and would produce progress
reports. He stated that this was the biggest construction
undertaken by HE, and the largest to happen in Thurrock for thirty
years, so it needed to be right.
The HE Head of Consents moved onto question twenty four: “there is a significant amount of land either side of the
route that is designated as land for mitigation. Does this
mitigation designate the land as protected for Special Scientific
interest or similar and therefore permanently prevented from being
purchased for building or development in the future? If not how
long is it protected for? The HE Head of Consents replied that
once the site had been designated for mitigation, it had to be
protected. He clarified that the sites would not be sites for
special scientific interest. He then explained that the sites could
be used for other purposes in future, but it would have to follow
the necessary procedures and planning regulations, but would be
protected for the duration of the project.
The Senior Consultant Stantec stated that not all land designated
for mitigation was highway or ecology, but some was open space. He
queried how this open space would be protected from development or
other uses in future, for example, could a covenant be placed on
the land. The HE Head of Consents replied that any future sites of
this nature would have to go through Thurrock’s planning
process or DCO submission. He explained that HE were required to
maintain the sites until either a planning process or DCO
submission was completed.
Councillor Kent questioned how the verges along the LTC would be
maintained and cleaned. The HE Head of Consents replied that HE
would have operational controls in place, and would be managed
accordingly once the route became part of the strategic road
network. The HE Technical Lead replied that contractors would be
employed to keep the verges clean, and HE would be enforcing
this.
Councillor Muldowney questioned how HE were engaging with local
farmers who were currently busy harvesting their crops. She asked
if HE could look again at extending the consultation. She also
queried if the phone line was a Freephone number, as some residents
might not be able to afford phone charges. The HE Head of Consents
replied that they had considered extending the consultation, but
this was not being proposed. He mentioned that although the public
consultation was not being extended, HE were in discussion with
local authorities regarding ensuring consultation responses could
go through the relevant internal governance processes. He added
that HE engaged with farmers through regular meetings and spoke
with them directly. He explained that it was standard practice to
use a paid phone service, but was free on mobiles as part of
people’s phone contracts and was a low rate if using
landlines.
Councillor Piccolo thanked HE for running an additional
consultation event in the Homesteads, but sought reassurance that
it would be a full event. The HE Head of Consents replied that the
event in Homesteads, and in Chadwell St Mary, would be the same
standard as events elsewhere in the borough, and would be staffed
by the full range of specialists. He explained that in previous
years there had been duplicate specialists at one event, but due to
COVID only one specialist was being provided this year. He stated
that this was to ensure the team were not affected by the track and
trace system if someone was pinged.
The Chair thanked HE for their attendance and asked if written
responses could be provided by early the following week, and the HE
Head of Consents agreed with this date.
The HE Head of Consents, Technical Lead, Local
Government Engagement Co-Ordinator, and Local Government Lead left
the meeting at 9.25pm.